[ensembl-dev] ***SPAM*** RE: REVEL Pluging in VEP 110

Benjamin Moore bmoore at ebi.ac.uk
Mon Dec 11 16:45:38 GMT 2023


Hi Bin,

Yes, it is true thast the haploid male and female genome sizes are 
different. However, the reference human genome sequence is not a 'male' 
or 'female' genome sequence. Instead it contains all autosomes, plus 
both sex chromosomes. So, the genome size quoted on the Ensembl site is 
the total of all 24 chromosomes (1-22 +X + Y).

I hope this helps.

Best wishes

Ben

On 11/12/2023 16:38, Bin Xu wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> The haploid genome sizes of male and female are different, since X 
> chromosome is longer than Y.
>
> This is why I interpret that human haploid genome size 3,099,750,718 
> is the average.
>
> Could you explain if I am wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bin
>
> *From:* Dev <dev-bounces at ensembl.org> *On Behalf Of * Benjamin Moore
> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2023 10:17 AM
> *To:* dev at ensembl.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ensembl-dev] ***SPAM*** RE: REVEL Pluging in VEP 110
>
> Hi Bin Xu,
>
> The human reference genome is a composite genome, derived from the 
> sequence of several different anonymous individuals. The size is not 
> an average, but a total of all chromosomal sequence (autosomes, plus X 
> and Y).
>
> More information can be found on the following pages:
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/grc/help/faq/#human-reference-genome-individuals
>
> Best wishes
>
> Ben
>
> On 11/12/2023 14:50, Bin Xu wrote:
>
>     Hi Ben,
>
>     Thanks for your message!
>
>     Do you mean that the human haploid genome size 3,099,750,718 is
>     the average or median size of male and female haploid genome?
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Bin Xu, PhD
>
>     *From:* Dev <dev-bounces at ensembl.org>
>     <mailto:dev-bounces at ensembl.org> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Moore
>     *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2023 6:50 AM
>     *To:* dev at ensembl.org
>     *Subject:* Re: [ensembl-dev] ***SPAM*** RE: REVEL Pluging in VEP 110
>
>     Hi Bin Xu,
>
>     The genome size quoted on the species-specific hompages on the
>     Ensembl websites refers to the length of the haploid genome size
>     for that species, in the case of human, including sequences from
>     both the X and Y chromosome. The genome assembly was generated by
>     the Genome Reference Consortium (GRC). You can read more about the
>     genome assemblies and associated data/methods on the documentation:
>
>     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/grc/human
>
>     Best wishes
>
>     Ben
>
>     On 08/12/2023 17:24, Bin Xu wrote:
>
>         Dear Ensembl Team,
>
>         I am looking at the human genome size in your web page below,
>         but it does not specify the base pairs 3,099,750,718 as either
>         male, or female, or average of male and female.
>
>         The same are the other species. As I know the female genome
>         size is about 1.6% more than male.
>
>         Could you please help to update the data by presenting female
>         and male genome size respectively.
>
>         https://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Info/Annotation
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Bin Xu, PhD
>
>         Vice President
>
>         O: 732-783-7398 | C: 267-318-5247
>
>         bin.xu at accurantbiotech.com
>
>         259 Prospect Plains Rd, Cranbury, NJ 08512
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Dev <dev-bounces at ensembl.org>
>         <mailto:dev-bounces at ensembl.org> On Behalf Of Diana Lemos
>         Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 4:44 AM
>         To: Souhila Amanzougarene <souhila.amanzougarene at cnrs.fr>
>         <mailto:souhila.amanzougarene at cnrs.fr>
>         Cc: Ensembl developers list <dev at ensembl.org>
>         <mailto:dev at ensembl.org>
>         Subject: Re: [ensembl-dev] REVEL Pluging in VEP 110
>
>         Hi,
>
>         The plugin was updated after release 108 which could have
>         caused differences in the output.
>
>         Can you please send an example of your input file with
>         variants that were expected to have a REVEL score but didn't
>         with version 110?
>
>         Also, when did you download the REVEL file?
>
>         On 08/12/2023 08:15, Souhila Amanzougarene wrote:
>
>         > Dear Ensembl Team,
>
>         >
>
>         > I'm using VEP tool version 110 to annotate a VCF file (hg38)
>         with the
>
>         > REVEL plugin. I processed it by running the following command :
>
>         >
>
>         > ./vep -i variations.vcf --assembly GRCh38 --plugin
>
>         > REVEL,file=/path/to/revel/data.tsv.gz
>
>         >
>
>         > This command runs without any errors, but the REVEL column
>         is empty in
>
>         > the annotated VCF.
>
>         >
>
>         > I attempted to run VEP 110 using the REVEL.pm file from VEP
>         108, and
>
>         > it worked, I now have scores in the REVEL column.
>
>         >
>
>         >
>
>         > Thak you for your assisatnce !
>
>         >
>
>         > Best regards,
>
>         >
>
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